Why is it that I've
rarely found a Christian on Facebook who understands how
hypothetical questions work? Seriously, it's like they've never
encountered such a concept. I've asked different hypothetical
questions on multiple occasions and almost without fail the responses
from the Christian contingent completely misunderstand how the damn
things work.
I'll give you one example of a hypothetical question I've used;
I'm an atheist. If I go
out tomorrow and stab a religious man in the spine, crippling him for
life, it could set in motion a series of events. The man can't drive.
He loses his job. This means he can't afford his mortgage, he loses
his house. The stress on his relationship results in his wife
leaving, taking their children with her. Left alone, crippled and
with seemingly no hope, this man falls into despair and turns away
from god completely. He becomes an atheist who can see no evidence
for a god in such a desperate, violent world, and he curses the
concept of god, blaspheming him daily. Ultimately, in a fit of deep
depression, the man kills himself.
According to the bible,
this man's atheism and blasphemy, along with his suicide, will result
in god sending him to Hell for an eternity of torturous suffering.
Sick, right?
It gets so much worse!
Some time in the
future, I see the light. I turn to Christ and repent my sins. It's
too late for me to make amends to my victim, he killed himself long
before, but it doesn't seem to matter. Because I've repented my sins
and been born again in Christ that means I go to Heaven from where,
according to some, I will be able to watch my victim burning and
writhing in agony.
Now, to me this strikes
as wholly immoral; to damn for eternity somebody whom has already
suffered interminably. To then reward the person who caused that
suffering, and ultimately lead to the person's sentencing to hell, is
utterly repellent. I can find no rationale that can make this
anything but a disgusting, revolting travesty of justice.
Christians don't appear
to see it that way, because they simply cannot deal with the
underlying scenario. Whether this is because they're subconsciously
aware of the ramifications or just too stupid to understand, I don't
know. I'll tell you how it went when I posed the above to one theist
recently.
The first response was
that the man I stabbed didn't necessarily turn away from god, that
many people who suffer hardship grow closer to god. Yes, that may be
true, but not within the context of the hypothetical
scenario outlined above. When this was pointed out, the moron
simply repeated that I was wrong, my victim might not have turned
from god.
Comprehension
difficulties or just thick as pig shit? Hard to tell but, given other debates with him, I'm inclined towards the latter.
Another response was
that once salvation has been given it's not taken away. Well this
poses a problem, because what if I'd become born
again before stabbing my victim? Unless salvation is taken
away, Heaven could be full of hoodies with flick-knives. Clearly
salvation can be taken away, and the bible makes it clear that the
only way to god is through Jesus – so if my victim becomes an
atheist and blasphemes god (the one unforgivable sin, apparently)
then obviously he's fucked like a choirboy at a priest convention.
A further attempt to
obfuscate by this Facebook fucktard was to reason it away
by saying that my stabbing the man didn't force him to give up belief
in god, it was his own choice to do so and so he sadly chose that
path to Hell. Seriously? This is the lengths the arsetwittery will
take them to avoid the consequences of their belief!
Now of course nobody
can force another person to give up their faith, though
Christians do have a history of doing just that by the point of a
sword where necessary. However nowhere in my hypothetical scenario
did I say I forced my victim to lose his faith, I merely stabbed him.
It was the repercussions of my action that led to him losing his
faith. I'm still ultimately responsible for that loss of faith, even
if I didn't intentionally set out to cause to, nor attempt to force
him to.
Yet again, this doesn't
appear to matter to god. All that would seem to matter is that I
repent and turn to Christ, be reborn and get a ticket to Harpville
Central. That in the course of my life I caused another soul to lose
their faith and end up in Fire & Brimstone Town is unimportant,
my victim's eternal damnation is blithely forgotten.
I have a problem with
this scenario. A big problem. Any god whom would sentence to eternal
torture the victim of a crime who lost their faith as a result of
that crime, yet would reward the perpetrator simply because they
turned to Christ cannot be a moral entity. They are the very
definition of narcissistic, interested solely in whether we worship
them. You lost your faith because god allowed shit to happen to you?
Tough, next pitchforking up the arse room on the right, I hope you
like the smell of burning flesh. You were a bastard to everybody and
a psychopath before repenting and turning to Christ? Suuuuure, come
right in, grab a halo and find a cloud by the Hell viewing platform,
popcorn is free.
But why can Christians
not see this? Why must they always, always obfuscate and attempt to
change the parameters of the hypothetical scenario in their favour?
The whole idea of hypothetical questions is that you don't change the
parameters to suit your outcome, you follow the parameters to see
where they lead you. Not if you're Christian, though. Then you have
to change the parameters, otherwise where you are led is to the
inevitable, inescapable conclusion that your god is a c**t! As must
be anybody morally bankrupt enough to consider the above scenario
perfectly acceptable.
Then again, the
arsehole Christian whom gave these responses above, Willis Vida, is
currently arguing that atheists have no moral grounds for anything,
because morals are god given - any attempt to explain how he is
wrong, including citing experts in Evolutionary Psychology, is
rejected out of hand. He's also a homophobic bigot, which should give
you some idea of the morals he insists god gave him!
No wonder
I'm increasingly anti-theist. Thanks for reading.
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